I'm looking for a pedal with the same purpose as JestMe.

There is a Electro Harmonix Slammi Plus Pitch Shift up to about 200 € in Germany. 

And there's the quite established BOSS OC 3, about 120 €.

And I found this video, where the guy is using an Electro Harmonix Micro Pog in combination with a Boss GE-7 Equalizer (to mask the mid an high frequencies). According to the video it's very very close to what I am looking for - and the most expensive too.  JestMe, here is the link, if you are interested: Micro Pog plus Boss Equalizer

You out there, are there experiences you made with these pedals? My purpose is to switch on-the-fly to a bass line in a looper phrase and play the chords above. 

Any suggestions are welcome!

Gottfried

Sometimes I'll create a bass line with guitar into the Looper by simpler methods: Neck pickup, Roll off tone, heavy palm muting and Dunlop Q wah pedal on high position where treble is also swept off.  It's not a real bass tone but close enough for the average ear.  I used that on this track: Red Custom

And it worked for acoustic with only hand muting and some EQ roll off and volume boost (computer built in mic with post recording EQ) on this kitchen recording. Who Knows kitchen acoustic

Could pass for street needs.

I use a midi keyboard through a synth.  Seamless and simple.

Man there are a number of different ways to do this, I can see. Thanks gents for the thoughts and ideas...

An update :

Hopefully my dilemma will be over soon.. as soon as the package from Sweetwater arrives... I spoke to Brad Thomsen, my very knowledgeable and helpful Sweetwater advisor for awhile on the phone today and bought myself an inexpensive bass... Ibanez Mikro 4 string. It won't be arriving for a while as they are out of stock at the moment... but it will get here early 2018!!! 

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/GSRM20BWNF  

As you can see, if you follow the link not a high end or expensive instrument. I think it should handle the job and hopefully will be fun to have it around in case I ever have a local guitar/jam friend.

Posted by: Gottfried

I'm looking for a pedal with the same purpose as JestMe.

There is a Electro Harmonix Slammi Plus Pitch Shift up to about 200 € in Germany. 

And there's the quite established BOSS OC 3, about 120 €.

And I found this video, where the guy is using an Electro Harmonix Micro Pog in combination with a Boss GE-7 Equalizer (to mask the mid an high frequencies). According to the video it's very very close to what I am looking for - and the most expensive too.  JestMe, here is the link, if you are interested: Micro Pog plus Boss Equalizer

You out there, are there experiences you made with these pedals? My purpose is to switch on-the-fly to a bass line in a looper phrase and play the chords above. 

Any suggestions are welcome!

Gottfried

Gottfried

I watched a number of YouTube videos re pedals that can change the pitch of a played note... amazing what some of the pedals can do including creating multiple simultaneous notes ... I think it would be a lot of fun playing around with some of those... I hope you will fill us in if you decide to get one of them... Thanks for the response

Posted by: Clayton

Sometimes I'll create a bass line with guitar into the Looper by simpler methods: Neck pickup, Roll off tone, heavy palm muting and Dunlop Q wah pedal on high position where treble is also swept off.  It's not a real bass tone but close enough for the average ear.  I used that on this track: Red Custom

And it worked for acoustic with only hand muting and some EQ roll off and volume boost (computer built in mic with post recording EQ) on this kitchen recording. Who Knows kitchen acoustic

Could pass for street needs.

Clayton

Cool recordings, Nice job!!! ... and you do get a surprisingly good bass sound with your guitar... perhaps in part due to all your years of playing bass.

I may have to hit you up for some bass playing tips!

Thanks

Posted by: wobbly_bob

I use a midi keyboard through a synth.  Seamless and simple.

Craig

I'm sure this is much simpler than my brain thinks it is! 😉 Do you need special software to do this... does your keyboard go directly into your DAW? Are you able to simulate slides and such...? 

Thanks!

Posted by: JestMe

Posted by: wobbly_bob

I use a midi keyboard through a synth.  Seamless and simple.

Craig

I'm sure this is much simpler than my brain thinks it is! 😉 Do you need special software to do this... does your keyboard go directly into your DAW? Are you able to simulate slides and such...? 

Thanks!

Yes straight into my DAW. I have a VST plugin called dimension pro.  Has thousands of different sounds and instruments. Can emulate slides etc.  fantastic piece of software. There are heaps of freebies on the net.  try these http://www.vst4free.com/index.php?plug-ins=Guitar/Bass

Chris, welcome to the deep end of the pool.  When you get your fingers on those big strings, focus on tone and feel with a fewer notes.  There's a lot of expression you can coax from that 34" scale.

Oh, and always (well, not really always) hit a firm note on the "1" for each bar.

Posted by: wobbly_bob

Posted by: JestMe

Posted by: wobbly_bob

I use a midi keyboard through a synth.  Seamless and simple.

Craig

I'm sure this is much simpler than my brain thinks it is! 😉 Do you need special software to do this... does your keyboard go directly into your DAW? Are you able to simulate slides and such...? 

Thanks!

Yes straight into my DAW. I have a VST plugin called dimension pro.  Has thousands of different sounds and instruments. Can emulate slides etc.  fantastic piece of software. There are heaps of freebies on the net.  try these http://www.vst4free.com/index.php?plug-ins=Guitar/Bass

Can't argue with your recordings it all sounds great. I bet with the midi keyboard you can fashion a lot of different instruments sounds...

Posted by: Clayton

Chris, welcome to the deep end of the pool.  When you get your fingers on those big strings, focus on tone and feel with a fewer notes.  There's a lot of expression you can coax from that 34" scale.

Oh, and always (well, not really always) hit a firm note on the "1" for each bar.

Clayton

You got me thinking... I was looking at an Ibanez miKro Bass... since reading your post re 34" scale!!! I have googled around and see that the miKro is 28.6" scale and may not be the right choice...

After more googling I am thinking maybe Mustang PJ with 30" scale... any thoughts on that would be appreciated!

I can still change my order BUT... then I have to go back to the bookkeeper again!

BTW I haven't posted anything yet but I just bought a D'Angelico Excel DC Semi-Hollow ... not to mention a new truck last month! It is getting cool around these parts and I do favor indoor sleeping these days!

Chris, my first bass was a Ibanez 305 (standard bass length 34") which I purchased because of its thin neck and played for a year, and then moved up to Fender American Jazz and Precision and the list goes on....  I've had my hands on a Mustang and a Gibson 30" (short scale) and they sounded good and played a little easier than standard 34" basses.  The shorter scale makes the intro approach to the bass easier to handle but there is something missing in the depth of tone.  Mikro scale I cannot say but since you've been handling guitar for a while I'd head over to a 34" and enjoy the ride.   You can find a Mexican Precision, Jazz, or PJ open box and they are good players.  Lakland skyline basses are real easy players, as are Musicman Subs, and G&L tributes.

Be sure to check out open box returns at MF and Zzounds.

Clayton

Thanks for the info, it is very useful and has made me a bit braver regarding scale length. I have been checking out various sites and open box, blems... thus far I haven't found the right match. I think the bottom line will be finding the best deal within the right parameters, as I have been on a bit of a spending spree recently.

As often happens, what started out as a ... gonna buy a cheap bass for a couple hundred bucks has evolved into ... I don't really want a cheap bass! 😉 Still budget constraints do exist.

As always, I appreciate your insight and info sharing.

My pleasure Chris!  That instrument, the one for you, like a wand in the world of Harry Potter, or Dr. Stranger's cape, is out there.  Maybe open box or Craigslist or even EBay  (back in the early 2000's there were awesome deals on eBay).  You might check out Fender Forum or Bass Talk classifeds.  Oh, yeah, and I tried a friends Peavy Fury made in Japan last month that was a super easy player pawn shop deal at $150.

If you go full size, start with light or extra light strings, or even roundwound.  

Needless to say, I'm enthusiastic about playing bass, it's a whole different view of the field and definitely influences my musicianship and guitar style.